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17:46:30 <neorocks207> hello anyone here
17:46:48 <_dan> maybe
17:46:57 <_dan> been a bit quiet here the last few days
17:47:27 <neorocks207> this is my frst day here
17:47:54 <_dan> hello then :)
17:48:05 <_dan> we're pretty friendly here, but it can be very quiet for long periods of time
17:48:10 <_dan> what's your interest in bioinformatics?/
17:48:10 <neorocks207> may i hav ur intro pl
17:48:22 <neorocks207> proteomic and genomic data analysis
17:48:41 <_dan> good stuff
17:48:58 * _dan runs a bioinformatics support unit at a UK university
17:49:01 <neorocks207> and urs
17:49:10 <_dan> but my colleague deals with the proteomics stuff ;)
17:49:13 <neorocks207> thts gud
17:49:17 * _dan does mainly microarary work
17:49:21 <_dan> amongst other things
17:49:22 <neorocks207> whch university
17:49:26 <_dan> Newcastle
17:50:14 <neorocks207> thts nice
17:50:20 <neorocks207> i m B tech
17:50:24 <neorocks207> bioinformatics
17:50:35 <neorocks207> planning to do Msc or Mres
17:50:41 <neorocks207> wat do u suggest
17:50:47 <neorocks207> ?
17:50:47 <_dan> plenty  of those around these days thats for sure
17:50:52 <_dan> I'd do an MRes
17:50:54 <_dan> personally
17:51:09 <_dan> 6 month project would be valuable if you already have an undergrad in the area
17:51:31 <neorocks207> i am a current undergrad student
17:51:36 <neorocks207> at university
17:51:40 * _dan nods
17:51:51 <_dan> so I think some of the material on an MSc you'd already know
17:51:52 <neorocks207> bachelor of technology
17:52:01 <_dan> as they cater to a wide field
17:52:09 <_dan> (of applicants)
17:52:20 <_dan> but your BTech is specifically in bioinformatics?
17:52:26 <neorocks207> yeah
17:52:44 <_dan> and you're not thinking of a PhD?
17:52:52 <neorocks207> engineering degree in B tech bioinformatics
17:53:14 <neorocks207> can i sit for Phd directly without gettng  a masters degree
17:54:03 <_dan> well usually here yes it's certainly possible, people use the masters to switch focus from their undergraduate degree
17:54:08 <_dan> i dont know what the situation is like out of the UK
17:54:22 <_dan> A masters never hurts though
17:55:00 <neorocks207> here it is Btech then M tech then phd
17:55:06 <_dan> i see
17:55:22 <neorocks207> ok tell me 1 thing frankly
17:55:25 <neorocks207> plz
17:56:00 <_dan> ok
17:56:06 <neorocks207> if i get to UK for my Mres or phd , wat wll be job prospects 
17:56:23 <neorocks207> with how much salary package annually. 
17:56:42 <CowbertDH> why do you care lol
17:56:49 <neorocks207> i am skilled in c, c++, perl, python,
17:56:53 <trampel> (egads...)
17:57:06 <_dan> good question.. there are always bioinformatics jobs around, but there's a lot of masters courses here churning out a lot of masters students
17:57:25 <_dan> salaries?  I'm a bit vague these days as I haven't been looking for a new job recently ;)
17:57:42 <neorocks207> so how much u gettng .
17:57:43 <_dan> http://www.prospects.ac.uk/cms/ShowPage/Home_page/Explore_types_of_jobs/Types_of_Job/p!eipaL?state=showocc&idno=277&pageno=2
17:57:46 <_dan> well im not telling you that
17:57:50 <CowbertDH> I thought people studies stuff because they were interested in the subject
17:57:58 <_dan> and im a lot more senior than a new postdoc
17:57:58 <CowbertDH> not because of money, especially not in the sciences
17:58:17 <neorocks207> but this thing also matters 
17:58:39 <neorocks207> as i hav to repay to the agency from wer i borrowed money
17:58:39 <trampel> then it's cost accounting for you, make
17:58:48 <trampel> s/make/mate/
17:59:15 <CowbertDH> if you want to make money, get a busines degree :)
17:59:32 <_dan> http://www.bioinformaticszen.com/2008/07/bioinformatics-career-survey-second-week/
17:59:38 <_dan> there's a career survey there for bioinformatiscf
17:59:44 <_dan> the results will be out in august
17:59:55 <neorocks207> okies thnks dan
18:00:01 <_dan> that will include salary info
18:00:37 <neorocks207> hey cowbert, i hav deep interest in bioinfo, 
18:00:59 <CowbertDH> cool
18:01:36 <neorocks207> dont u think money matters sumtim, atleast to sum extent
18:01:52 * _dan never went into science for the money
18:01:56 <_dan> never even crossed my mind
18:01:57 <_dan> if it had
18:02:01 <_dan> i'd be an accountant
18:02:21 <CowbertDH> it's science. if you're good enough, it'll pay your bills :)
18:02:23 <_dan> in fact i went in expecting to be poorly paid
18:02:38 <neorocks207> i agree , right cowbert
18:02:39 <wonklab> I went into science for the phat cash and hot chicks.
18:02:46 <CowbertDH> omg
18:02:46 <_dan> lol
18:02:50 <wonklab> science groupies
18:02:51 <CowbertDH> hot nerdy chicks
18:02:56 <CowbertDH> rawr
18:02:56 <_dan> with specs
18:02:56 <trampel> fast cars
18:03:01 <CowbertDH> yes
18:03:03 <neorocks207> :P
18:03:21 <neorocks207> nuthing can be denied
18:03:58 <neorocks207> no chick here
18:06:06 <neorocks207> seems every 1 got busy, sumwer ;)
18:06:34 <_dan> reading nature articles and talking to the girlfriend ;)
18:06:52 <trampel> driving fast car and texting this with tongue
18:07:52 <CowbertDH> reading webcomics
18:08:28 <neorocks207> so u all ppl r frm UK
18:08:45 <trampel> some of us aren't so lucky
18:08:54 <CowbertDH> haha
18:09:14 <_dan> yeah nice sunny country that it is...
18:09:23 <neorocks207> neither me, but planning to bend my luck
18:09:28 * _dan gets back to his cold wet summer and a glass of wine
18:09:29 <_dan> bye all
18:09:37 <CowbertDH> yeah it just rained again
18:09:58 <neorocks207> dans grlfrnd called him probably
18:10:02 <neorocks207> bye dan
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