01:05:34 *** _dan has quit (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01:05:34 *** orbitz has quit (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01:05:49 *** orbitz (n=orbitz@c-98-204-107-254.hsd1.md.comcast.net) has joined #bioinformatics 01:05:49 *** _dan (n=dan@shady.org) has joined #bioinformatics 01:08:36 *** _dan has quit (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01:08:36 *** orbitz has quit (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01:30:28 *** orbitz (n=orbitz@c-98-204-107-254.hsd1.md.comcast.net) has joined #bioinformatics 01:30:28 *** _dan (n=dan@shady.org) has joined #bioinformatics 01:38:49 *** synthasee (n=synthase@69.254.170.145) has joined #bioinformatics 01:48:23 *** synthase has quit (Connection timed out) 03:39:45 *** _dan has quit (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 03:39:45 *** orbitz has quit (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 03:53:48 *** ybit (n=u1@unaffiliated/ybit) has joined #bioinformatics 03:57:23 *** orbitz (n=orbitz@c-98-204-107-254.hsd1.md.comcast.net) has joined #bioinformatics 03:57:23 *** _dan (n=dan@shady.org) has joined #bioinformatics 03:59:46 *** kanzure has quit ("Leaving.") 04:19:46 *** kanzure (n=bryan@cpe-70-113-54-112.austin.res.rr.com) has joined #bioinformatics 04:38:59 *** _dan has quit (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04:38:59 *** orbitz has quit (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04:46:24 *** orbitz (n=orbitz@c-98-204-107-254.hsd1.md.comcast.net) has joined #bioinformatics 04:46:24 *** _dan (n=dan@shady.org) has joined #bioinformatics 04:56:38 *** synthasee has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:13:09 *** ybit has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:36:46 *** ybit (n=u1@unaffiliated/ybit) has joined #bioinformatics 05:58:47 *** kanzure has quit ("Leaving.") 06:03:35 *** nordlicht (n=nordlich@141.53.70.85) has joined #bioinformatics 06:12:20 *** dozer (n=dozer@roam-0040.ncl-eduroam.org.uk) has joined #bioinformatics 06:15:31 morning ppl 06:19:05 *** ybit has quit (Connection timed out) 06:31:17 matin :) 06:32:26 ah, off to my first meeting of hte day ... 06:40:33 * _dan potentially has no meetings today 06:40:39 <_dan> which would be nice 06:48:07 *** pingou_work has quit (Remote closed the connection) 07:30:14 half an hour to breath... 08:02:41 *** spaes has parted #bioinformatics () 08:09:22 *** pingou_work (n=pingou@fedora/pingou) has joined #bioinformatics 08:11:54 *** nsh (n=chatzill@wikipedia/nsh) has joined #bioinformatics 09:38:50 *** highvoltz has quit (Client Quit) 09:57:38 *** synthase (n=synthase@69.254.170.145) has joined #bioinformatics 10:35:08 *** highvoltz (i=rogers@bling.bling.org) has joined #bioinformatics 10:45:18 *** nordlicht has quit ("Verlassend") 10:54:15 * _dan ponders the general difficulty of deploying tomcat on OpenBSD 10:56:30 tomcat, tomcat 10:56:54 something that plugs into apache and 10:57:02 does something webby and pointless? 10:57:11 maybe involving java.. 10:57:18 * nsh reaches back into the mists of memory 11:12:15 well, that's my morning over 11:43:21 *** nsh has quit ("coin the moin") 12:03:47 *** Cawiss has quit ("Leaving") 12:06:04 <_dan> dozer: pub? 12:06:07 <_dan> ;) 12:09:13 I wish 12:09:25 I am meant to be synthetic-biologying 12:09:33 instead i'm instantsoaping 12:10:04 synthetic biology 12:10:09 is that like synthetic chemistry? 12:10:46 <_dan> i am mostly getting annoyed with taverna 12:11:49 never heard of it. the screenshots are pretty. colorful 12:12:45 there are several different things that different groups call synthetic biology 12:13:09 we mean genetic engineering, at the whole organism / system level, driven by CAD rather than 'mutate and hope' 12:19:20 <_dan> dozer: in your taverna what on earth is the URL for the plugin server? i can't see any bloody plugins other than the Taverna 2 preview 12:19:49 <_dan> i want the remote execution server plugin, but the docs are not proving informative 12:21:31 <_dan> i can't see feta or anything 12:34:36 oh, that sounds bad 12:34:42 are you behind a firewall? 12:36:08 <_dan> well i have modified the mygrid.properties file in accordance with instructions 12:36:43 mm - can you contact services outside the ncl firewall? 12:36:49 e.g. soaplab at the ebi? 12:37:15 <_dan> they are listed in teh pane yeah 12:37:21 <_dan> i am reinstalling it now 12:37:22 <_dan> just in case 12:39:54 <_dan> yeah i seem to be able to run things from eutils@ncbi 12:40:31 * _dan grinds his teeth 12:40:35 <_dan> still no pluings 12:43:36 perhaps they have withdrawn all but that one? 12:43:44 are there people in #taverna? 12:43:50 <_dan> no, i saw it working on phils bloody computer this morning 12:48:15 <_dan> hm interesting 12:48:22 <_dan> it can't see plugnis from other sites either 12:48:44 <_dan> honestly some days I'd be better off working from home 12:48:51 <_dan> where things work as I expect 12:49:41 where the network admin is too buisy keeping movies streaming to the customers to do funkey things with firewalls and routing rules 12:50:04 *** sparta has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 12:50:16 * _dan is in #taverna 13:17:31 *** synthase has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:39:08 * _dan has confused the people on #taverna enough and has gone to the mailing list 13:59:50 <_dan> dozer: pub? ;) 14:11:55 pub - igemery - all good 14:11:58 *** dozer has parted #bioinformatics ("Kopete 0.12.4 : http://kopete.kde.org") 14:29:30 *** rogers (i=rogers@bling.bling.org) has joined #bioinformatics 14:36:39 *** highvoltz has quit (Remote closed the connection) 14:52:35 *** rogers is now known as highvoltz 15:26:55 helloooooo 16:04:55 *** YLN (n=etc@bl5-80-177.dsl.telepac.pt) has joined #bioinformatics 16:04:59 hi 16:05:05 i need help with two things 16:05:19 i need to know what is "flagging" and "dye-swap" 16:05:27 someone could help me with that? 16:05:56 (soz my bad english) 16:35:17 no one here? 16:56:51 *** flu has quit (Remote closed the connection) 17:15:39 *** flu (n=jogoodma@conger.bio.indiana.edu) has joined #bioinformatics 17:44:10 YLN: We're around, just slow. 17:44:20 I have no idea what flaggin and dye-swap are, though. 17:44:33 hmm kk 17:44:39 i've been reading a book 17:44:48 Microarray Bioinformatics 2003 17:45:04 and those two terms i really couldn't understand 17:45:16 thanks anyway 18:17:50 *** highvoltz has quit () 18:23:41 *** spaes (n=username@adsl-75-36-146-76.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) has joined #bioinformatics 18:35:43 *** highvoltz (i=rogers@bling.bling.org) has joined #bioinformatics 19:06:38 yikes, this firefox 3 linux fsync bug is nasty. http://jasondclinton.livejournal.com/66509.html 19:07:37 hopefully they will get it patched. It seems to have started some large flame wars though. 19:31:08 *** synthase (n=synthase@69.254.170.145) has joined #bioinformatics 19:49:08 <_dan> YLN: flagging - is where you decide a spot is a genuine signal, a bad signal or somewhere in between 19:50:11 <_dan> YLN: dye swaps are a way of controlling error due to the difference in signal intensities from the dyes (Cy3/Cy5) 19:59:08 _dan another stupid question 19:59:34 what is the porpuse of MA plots 19:59:41 or why use 19:59:44 them 20:00:03 (i'm having an test tomorrow) 20:03:48 *** kanzure (n=bryan@cpe-70-113-54-112.austin.res.rr.com) has joined #bioinformatics 20:11:38 webkit sucks a lot too, ever used safari :) 20:12:30 and it's funny that nobody's blamed the linux kernel yet either 20:13:30 CowbertDH: I tried using webkit once. I ended up trying wxmozilla instead. Both suck. 20:14:55 > "With synchronous OFF (0), SQLite continues without pausing as soon as it has 20:14:58 > handed data off to the operating system. If the application running SQLite 20:15:02 > crashes, the data will be safe, but the database might become corrupted if the 20:15:05 ^^ blame the OS for your data corruptin then 20:15:08 > operating system crashes or the computer loses power before that data has been 20:15:11 > written to the disk surface." 20:15:15 yep, pidgin/gaim was complaining about that a while back 20:15:25 or some python group 20:15:27 IIRC. 20:15:30 well i'm not a linux user so I just find the entire situation hilarious 20:15:54 Actually, nevermind. The SQLite problems I refer to are different. 20:15:58 Lots of i/o for useless stuff. 20:16:11 so are you all set on the bioreactor stuff? 20:16:32 CowbertDH: Hm? 20:16:35 The in vitro meat? 20:16:45 Sort of, I'm still looking into tissue engineering. 20:16:56 and I have to run, so email me at kanzure@gmail.com for followup or something 20:16:59 *** kanzure has quit ("Leaving.") 20:17:00 you were asking about peptide production rates 20:17:04 heh 20:20:43 *** YLN has quit ("( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )") 20:22:03 <_dan> YLN: not here for homework sorry - google is your friend 20:29:50 lol 20:32:52 *** torbjorn has quit (Remote closed the connection) 20:32:55 *** torbjorn (n=torbjorn@195.159.113.30) has joined #bioinformatics 20:53:07 *** synthase has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:53:20 *** synthase (n=synthase@69.254.170.145) has joined #bioinformatics 20:59:37 *** cdurden (n=cdurden@neuron.cgb.indiana.edu) has joined #bioinformatics 22:21:05 _dan: i see that he was asking you, but i hope you aren't saying that there shouldn't be homework questions in the channel.. i think they can be helpful review as long as it doesn't seem like the person is just extracting answers from people here to write down verbatim 22:25:00 purpose of MA plots.. yeah might be an easier thing to google. but i think the motto should be textbook/google first, ask second 22:26:02 *** synthasee (n=synthase@69.254.170.145) has joined #bioinformatics 22:26:06 <_dan> spaes: I don't mind people asking questions, but you know.. we don't hand the answers out to our students :/ 22:35:55 *** synthase has quit (Connection timed out)